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From: Andrii Zvorygin
Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [agi] AGI Civilization Bootstrap: A Truly Marvelous Gift from the Gods
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:08 AM, The Wizard
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> Does the creation of a copy have a timeline?
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> The primitive people would have to mind the earth for the right minerals before they even got started then refine the materials to create new synthetics.
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> All this would have to be done for the AGi to reproduce…
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> In other words how do we know we are not currently doing this now,
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> and have been guided by an AGI all through history to build the tech it needs to reproduce…
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There are several or multi-tiered solutions.
For instance on the same planet we can drop in deserts near mountains robot colonies.
Few if any biological competition due to desert and mineral rich due to mountains.
The computers or robots can also be made from more readily available parts,
with replacement options.
While a robot might prefer to have all its wires from gold,
it can probably suffice to have wires made from aluminum or even graphite.
mix and match robot host bodies.
The shells and structural body parts can be made from wood or ceramic.
Ceramic is really hard, and it’s base components of clay are abundant just about everywhere.
Now the computer/robots that are given to the local tribes,
can learn and teach things to help the locals become more technologically and spiritually aware.
Those that are doing well, and have support of the locals,
can get resupplied by the desert colonies.
Likewise the tribes that work with robots,
can get more robots, and equipment.
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Eric Burton
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>> A computer in your mind, converting oxygen to glucose to power your
>> brain, and body.
We certainly can at some point make converters to allow machines to be powered by atmospheric compounds.
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Bryan Bishop
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Andrii Zvorygin wrote:
>> an AGI Civilization Bootstrap
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> I did a talk on a nearly related concept a month ago:
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> part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg
> part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S9z6H_EFqQ
> part 3 (short Q&A): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edl6uFn3_g4
>
> More info:
> http://heybryan.org/om.html
> http://openmanufacturing.org/
> http://designfiles.org/dokuwiki/skdb
> http://designfiles.org/skdb.git
> pretty syntax highlighting: http://github.com/kanzure/skdb
>
> – Bryan
> http://heybryan.org/
> 1 512 203 0507
>
wow thanks,
that’s a trail in the right direction.
As you can probably tell,
i’m more into educational software.
But the hardware component is extremely important.
Open source hardware,
I really support you.
So I was wondering if you’ve organized a civilization seed list,
of the hardware path for making a von neuman human-robot hybrid tribe?
Like a roadmap.
That way we can plug in whatever components are necessary.
Here’s a tentative list.
energy production,
digging mining drilling equipment,
refining equipment (kilns, pressure chambers, distilleries),
parts manufacturing
parts assembly
programming or software and testing.
this way can work towards the goal of having a “civilization seed”.
one or several people can get all these components in a place,
and then practice bootstrapping a civilization.
Can even market such a “civilization seed” product to third world countries,
as well as groups in developed countries that might want to start
their own remote community.
an extension of bomb shelters, eco-villages and the like.
- Lowki
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Eric Burton
> There are seven post singularity technologies. Don’t leave home
> without one of these or you will be turning around
>
> Nanobots
> Replicators
> Zero-point generators
> Stardrives
> FTL radios
> Teleporters
> AI
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> Oh. And force shields. I had forgotten
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> That’s eight
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> flamoot
>
Those things will only be developed,
by using what we already have.
Open source hardware development,
is how those technologies will be available for all,
creating the paradise heave future,
we with you wish to share.
su lowki be author


