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extraordinary

Monday, November 30th, 2009

[quote][i]Originally posted by Unity_99[/i]
Well its not extraordinary to live in.
[/quote]
You’re right,
it would require new methods of living,
So they wont be extra-ordinary and perhaps not ordinary,
at least new to local earth hominids,
closer interaction with machines,
and growing food in artificial environments.

[quote]
It would quite frankly suck ,
[/quote]
It does suck,
it’s pulling us towards it,
to fill it up,
it’s a void,
that through osmosis,
will be filled.
[quote]
unless it all melts
[/quote]
unlikely,
this planet is usually much colder than now.

[quote]
but then the world map
would be changed forever.
[/quote]
sure

[quote]
The way you talk its like its all a free will zone
where everyone choses their freqs,
[/quote]
yep, that’s right now,
and all time.

Unless you don’t believe it,
then it’s whatever you believe.
[quote]
and while that is something
that is needed for empowerment,
its not really free will for most.
[/quote]
free will is making choices,
perhaps even creation options.

As is being done,
by making Antarctica an habitable option.
[quote]
And when you do work at this,
they do technology to block you,
[/quote]
Technology,
solid state host bodies.
Sounds like my groove.
We’re right on track :D .

[quote]
which means you’re working overtime just to meditate.
[/quote]
I don’t work.
I cast some magic spells,
to have money,
and not do anything for it.
Now it is so.
[quote]
But your answers are great. :) [/quote]
thanks :)
I support you as well.

[edit on 30-11-2009 by lowki]

exist in a society

Monday, November 30th, 2009

[quote][i]Originally posted by lpowell0627[/i]
Question: Since most criminals are unable to successfully exist in a society
[/quote]
Anything you imagine exists.
They successfully exist in a society.
Even in Earth society,
as you can imagine them.

They might not successfully follow all the rules of a particular restrictive belief system.

Given the freedom to do as they wish,
they will do so,
if they have lived so far,
they can live longer.

[quote]
– how would you propose teaching these criminals
[/quote]
via computer software.
developing an earth language,
that homo-sapiens and computers can speak and understand.

[quote]
to work together
for the sake of survival?
[/quote]
Much smaller communities,
under Dunbars number,
quoted variously from 250-100.

[quote]
I see no reason why this would not simply turn into a gang war
-type scenario
with the biggest bullies
forcing the newbies to do the work for them
– yet demand payment
in the way of extra dinner portions, etc.
[/quote]
You’re describing the current practice in the jail system.
This can occur in a small community,
but since every community is small,
each life is that much more valuable,
so “big bullies” or leaders of the community,
is more interested in the thrival of the group,
and every member of it,
so they themselves could thrive.

Part of the tutorials could cover social communities.
When a group is higher than dunbar’s number,
it is still 2 villages,
but one is subservient,
and some leaders are supressed.

Like when an atom is merged.

This would lead to communities being more likely to stay physically separate.
To make the social distinction, as well as self sufficiency seperate.

It is encouraged to form a max of 4 connections with nearby villages,
as an atom forms at most 4 connections.
(to my current knowledge of human chemistry)

[quote]
Prisons currently have a problem with surges in gang-type violence.
And if you ask any prison warden he/she will tell you that among the prisoners
there is a definite heirarchy
that often is completely different from the heirarchy
they were living prior to going to prison.
[/quote]
Prison is a microcosm.
Reflective of Earth society.

Earth has a problem with surges in war-type violence…
… different from their galactic hierarchy.

On the multiversal stage,
I’m a novice.
On the inter galactic stage,
I’m a pirate.
On the galactic stage,
… well I was told to unify Earth,
some tens of thousands of years ago,
by an orion priest,
looking similar to the Dark Seth from Star Wars.
On Earth,
I’ve been called many things.

But most commonly, Loki.

[quote]
Meaning, the top dogs in prison is not determined,
or conditioned, by their lives outside of prison.
So removing them to Antartica would not prevent this from happening.
[/quote]
Having leaders,
making great individuals,
Is one of the things Earth does quite well.

Monotheism is an example of a single-person dominant religious ideology.

We might as well, expand upon this,
by making more little communities,
giving more opportunities for leaders,
at smaller scales, allowing for greater diversity.

[quote]
Further, how would it be handled
should someone kill someone else while there?
[/quote]
Maybe the someone else will get eaten by their killer.

lol :) , I’m sure it would get lots of hits on youtube.
[quote]
There would have to be some repercussions or something
[/quote]
Ya, meat.

If they kill a farmer though,
and there aren’t any others around,
and they don’t know how to farm,
they will most likely starve.
[quote]
— otherwise you would have people killing other people just for extra dessert or something. [/quote]
Is that what people do in prisons now?
Dessert? lol
it’s a desert.
Well if you mean fruits and vegetables,
ya, if they can grow them,
or get them from someone that grows them,
they could have them.

Another reason for having large physical distances between villages,
Gives the individual villages a better chance of thriving.
Eventually they can become more packed together,
once the populations are higher,
and a stable base has formed.

Free Antarctica

Monday, November 30th, 2009

[quote][i]Originally posted by Unity_99[/i]
but I wouldnt send them to antartica.
[/quote]
What if they wanted to go?

Give the choice
“homosexual prison,
or heterosexual social community in Antarctica”
many will choose the latter.

[quote]
You think I’m being judgmental over a group of non-human elites
who have created the human race as a slave race 400,000 years ago
roughly,
this model,
and orchestrated every crime on this planet,
every war,
the massive starvation of billions of people.
They are mass murders beyond the understanding of the word.
[/quote]
so what?
You had fun didn’t you?
that’s the point.

Enjoy life.
It was the Nordics however,
that needed warrior race,
and so white people,
blood thirst.

Maybe not the fems,
but the males for sure.
“action movies” doesn’t refer to gardening.
Though many actions are done while gardening.

[quote]
I have a friend who is Sirian in source,
married to a alpha draconian in source,

His energy is strong enough
from a photograph to almost knock me off my chair.

Evelyn Rothchild does not knock me off my chair,
his energy is voided,
as if he has collapsed in on himself,
he has damaged his soul so badly.
It creeps me out to see his photo.
[/quote]
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d81d2a52ee7c.jpg[/atsimg]
To me, he seems like a Servant to Others kinda person.

Used to taking and processing orders experienced locally,
as depicted by his livlier right side.
his left is suffering, from atrocities, to souls karma.
can see the gray bag there,
almost like it’s been crying.

His facial expression,
reminds me of new york italian mafia aristocracy.
it says “Can I help you?”.

[quote]
We cannot be around these people and progress.
[/quote]
well do you spend time with him?
If you don’t like him,
why do you seek out pictures,
and look at him?
[quote]
Its that simple.

They are not our friends
and its horrific
what is being done here.
[/quote]
what is?

in Russian,
“horrible” pronounced “ujas” is a very common word,
in some peoples way of speaking,
it could mean anything,
from people being buried alive,
to soiling a table cloth.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=horrible&searchmode=phrase

horrible Look up horrible at Dictionary.com
c.1300, from O.Fr. horrible, from L. horribilis, from horrere “to bristle with fear, shudder” (see horror).

So you’re afraid?
or, having a low amount of love towards them?
… okay…

So what do you love?
How can you walk away from a mountain,
while staring at it?

Why not focus on what you love?

Like self-sustaining life,
and solid state host bodies.

Increasing the amount and diversity of life,
throughout your experience.

[quote]
And whats under the surface,
if you scratch it.
[/quote]
flesh
[quote]
3 of us saw it,
when someone was visiting for a week,
and I saw it alone a few weeks later.
One reflective sticker made someones whole outline pop out,
and the other shadows monitoring back there too.
They aren’t human, I will say that.
[/quote]
okay,
do you accept non homo-sapien life forms?
Do you embrace diversity,
of mind and body?

[quote]
David Icke isn’t wrong.
They use a technology,
an implant to chagne form,
[/quote]
changing form can easily be done,
if someone is a four spatial dimensioned being,
as they can simply move a different part of themselves,
into a 3rd dimension experiencers view.

Loki be a shapeshifter,
I still remember what it’s like.

reincarnation is a slower form of shapeshifting.

[quote]
and to suppress or change
our theta and beta waves
in so we dont see them.
[/quote]
like the “standardized hertz”,
televisions at relaxing 20hz,
computer screens and wall sockets at 60,
creating a frequency monoculture.

[quote]
This is a matrix.
[/quote]
multiverse, Cartesian field.
many synonyms.
[quote]
Earth is on a separate timeline as well,
[/quote]
Ya everyone has their own timeline.
lol.
“seperate” what? lol, seriously,
there are different frequencies sure.

is this one “special” oh!!! look it’s a baby!
lol hahaha
[quote]
a bubble, artificially created by the nuki’s.
[/quote]
and their belief systems,
yep.
So can we with you.
[quote]
They also use phasing technology.
I’ve seen the orange flashes at about 8 1/2-9 foot height outside, as if down a vizer.
[/quote]
cool, maybe you can get the Internet hive mind some videos of that.
I’ve seed these “flashes” in Nasa footage, there is a man that likes to identify them.

I agree, it can be multi-dimensional beings.

[quote]
I am not a specist.
[/quote]
yet you remark specie differences
[quote]
I am not judgmental.
[/quote]
wasn’t that recent remark about Rothschild a “judge of character” ?

Those are negative statements,
(utilizing not),
about yourself.
How about making more positive statements,
about we and yourself.

You are a wonderful being,
with a diverse experience,
accepting much that is there to be seen,
and sharing with others in an online forum.

That’s my positive experience of you.
[quote]
Freedom must be restored and people must be healed.
Then what?
[/quote]
old program,
that ones centuries,
if not millenia.
Ya well you think about it,
what are you gonna do then?

Settle Antarctica.
Colonize space.
Get a solid state host body.

[quote]
These are guys that use little children as urinals.
[/quote]
really? wow, well, … okay,
isn’t making a statement like that,
only going to further that program?

have you been “tuning to that frequency”?
well it’s up to you,
the multiverse accepts all.
[quote]
And you think I’m being judgmental.
[/quote]
No, to be honest,
I’m not sure what that is.

http://www.etymonline.com

judgmental Look up judgmental at Dictionary.com
“inclined to make moral judgments,” 1952, from judgment.

judgment Look up judgment at Dictionary.com
early 13c., “a pronunciation of an opinion, criticism,” from O.Fr. jugement (11c.), from jugier (see judge). Meaning “any authoritative decision” is from early 14c. (the Doomsday sense, “trial of moral beings by God,” is mid-14c.); meaning “the forming of an opinion” is from late 14c. Sense of “discernment” is first recorded 1530s.

I do believe you can form an opinion, and discern things.
That’s a good thing,
old news,
get used to your abilities.

It helps you make choices,
about what you wish to experience.

“Judge” where you want to go.

[quote]
No I want people to wake up and get rid of them.
[/quote]
You want to wake yourself up,
and get rid a part of yourself.

Why not be happy?

Help

Monday, November 30th, 2009

[quote][i]Originally posted by Unity_99[/i]
I’m not referring to the humans, but the nuki bloodlines.
And they’re not helping in the least.
[/quote]
Not helping, they are leading.
Or are potential leaders.

A “service to others” person,
hears a program,
and then ambitiously follows it.

“service to self” persons,
make a program.

Okay agreed,
not all programs,
lead to comfortable scenarios.
But you’ve followed it,
to get here.
It’s up to you,
to decide what program,
you will follow,
if you’re a helper.

What does it mean?
Lets make it clear.

follow commands.
do as told.
Act program.

help Look up help at Dictionary.com

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=help&searchmode=phrase

O.E. helpan (class III strong verb; past tense healp, pp. holpen), from P.Gmc. *khelpanan (cf. O.N. hjalpa, O.Fris. helpa, Du. helpen, Ger. helfen), from PIE base *kelb-/*kelp- “to help” (cf. Lith. selpiu “to support, help”). Sense of “serve someone with food at table” (1688) is translated from Fr. servir “to help, stead, avail,” and led to helping “portion of food” (1824). Use of help as euphemism for “servant” is Amer.Eng., 1645, tied up in notions of class and race.

“A domestic servant of American birth, and without negro blood in his or her veins … is not a servant, but a ‘help.’ ‘Help wanted,’ is the common heading of advertisements in the North, when servants are required.” [Chas. Mackay, "Life and Liberty in America," 1859].

“Service to others” or “good” people are “help” or followers.
That sense a program, and do what it says.

“Service to self” people or “evil” people are
commanders or programmers or masters or visionaries,
That create a program (by mixing sensations) and tells it to others.

These “sensation mixers” are often labeled “schizophrenic” and locked up,
medicated to a blubberbrain, and then have other people “fear” them.
It’s ridiculous.
People used to call them Shamans or Chiefs.

Some of these “Medicine People”,
That like to “help” people,
have a program,
that mutilates creative or “different” people,
attempting to make them more similar,
to the “help” program.

It’s a mental virus.

I’ve been in many a galaxy,
and this one is unique,
in terms of this “healing” stuff.

Weird shit (output).

Oh is that so? you’re growing wings?
Well we’ll cut them off.
It’s only helping.

[quote]
They are traumatizing humans
severly
and preventing their evolution
into the cosmos.
[/quote]
perhaps
[quote]

Jessica’s video on the illumanati’s plan for the starseeds.
She’s remarkable,
[/quote]
you’ve certainly remarked her :)
[quote]
a sirian feline starseed.
I picked her energy up immediately
and had to write to her.
She has some wonderful videos.
One thing she mentions in this one,
I believe is how best to control a race of people.
[/quote]
con troll,
to confuse and big angry violent thing.

lol, and to think, English is the international language.

Personally, I think it’s easier to give the troll a hug,
and love them into a happy harmonious vibration.
[quote]
Give them all unequal conditions,
politically, economically, gender wise,
and then its very easy
to manipulate them
into perpetually fighting each other.
[/quote]
Oh, how torn the creator of the fighting poem felt.
one side of self,
against another side of self.
oh the walls, of the manor,
loom so large,
and they uphold the center stone,
by pushing into it,
yes.
solid masonry,
stability.

solid state host bodies are up next yo! :D
So solid, so stable.
[quote]
I don’t see human prisoners
as anything less than mind controlled
and truamatized victims.
[/quote]
I know that program,
it’s from well, it’s pretty old,
lots of people claim it now.

Do you really like the tune of the frequency.
I prefer
Humans are self-guiding,
diverse choosers of experience.

[quote]
I don’t know know if there is a cure for pyschopathic murders or rapists,
[/quote]
What makes you think they aren’t all right?
Another of those “medicine people” programs.

Carnivores are a natural progression from a herbivorous society.
Once there are large amounts of herbivores,
there can be carnivores,
higher predators.

It’s part of the game,
especially this earth game.
When humans started putting out forest fires,
the trees built up huge densities,
and when they burned,
they took the whole landscape with them,
unextinguishable flames.

Before, there were lots of small fires,
and the old-growth trees could easily manage them,
as the fire didn’t spread into the canopy.

Same with humans,
have been putting out human fires,
killing vampires, jailing rogues.

Lots of “doomsday” talk,
when the big fire,
with unextinguishable flames come.
Look so many children,
playing gorey shooter games,
more profitable than movies, games are.

Lots of human flesh goes to waste,
buried, where it can’t be put back into the eco system,
to become sedimentary rock,
perhaps even a fossil.

If you really want a fossil,
the meat doesn’t usually stay anyhow,
how about a ceramic person?
can even leave some bones or a skull.

But can just eat the meat.
Or if you don’t think it’s worthy of your consumption,
can feed it to a pet, or let the forest have it.

In Antarctica,
People don’t rot outside,
so can bury them for the moment,
and eat them if food is lacking.

In China people eat human babies,
and some South Asian communities,
even former Native American communities,
find cannibalism to be socially acceptable.

Embrace diversity,
it allows for greater biomass.

I think the entire idea is rather sillly

Monday, November 30th, 2009

[quote][i]Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984[/i]
[i]reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread522685/pg1#pid7617839]post by lowki[/url][/i]
[more]

I doubt modern humans could survive such conditions as a permanent base.
[/quote]
They already do,
there are many permanent Antarctic bases.

mainly researchers on staff,
not growing their own supplies,
and typically not using renewable energy sources.

But that’s what can be expected from over funded government projects.
[quote]
You are relying upon animals to live.
[/quote]
Actually more likely will have to be vegans,
more biomass per square meter.

[quote]
The eskimos did this,
[/quote]
Inuit
[quote]
but their bodies had evolved
to be short and stout
to deal with the conditions.
[/quote]
They also eat meat,
which has little fiber,
so they don’t feel satisfied,
with the same number of calories.

The people will be living indoors,
most of the time.
The ski-boats have sails and rudder,
operable from inside hull.
[quote]
I think the entire idea is rather sillly. [/quote]
Yay!
That’s almost funny.
And funny is almost manifested.

[edit on 30-11-2009 by lowki]

I found this interesting

Monday, November 30th, 2009

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=522685&page=#pid7630145

[quote][i]Originally posted by Unity_99[/i]
I found this interesting.
With the appropriate technology
and creating domed villages
[/quote]
Domes get snowed in, and otherwise sink,
As exemplified by the dome at amundsen scott base,

It might be Ice, but it’s still water.

Structures should float.
Platonic solids have a healing/inspiring effect,

and float, when properly sealed,
A tetrahedron, dodecahedron or icosahedron,
have a larger volume to surface area ratio than cubes/rectangular prisms,
so greater buoyancy.
[quote]
and underground,
[/quote]
Nazi’s still live in new schwabenland caves,
many caves might be occupied by alien races or otherwise,
though many might still be available,
the majority of the continent is ice or hard packed snow.

[quote]
or under ice perhaps,
[/quote]
Under snow,
provides good insulation,
as long as it doesn’t melt.

Might be a viable option,
I’ve thought of making under snow bases,
but there are inherent risks,
like cave ins and snow ins.

Reinforced caves might be an option,
but are more labor intensive,
than making a floating surface structure.

[quote]
some may even choose to live
and work here;
antartica holds many secrets after all.
[/quote]
Ya, started out with me wanting to live there,
but decided might as well have a colonization effort.

[quote]
But who would be forced to live here?
[/quote]
no one, in an ideal world.
only judicial and military systems can force people.

It would be nice if everyone that went volunteered,
but many people didn’t want to go to australia,
not because it’s not habitable,
and better for their souls learning experience,
but the earthly “fear of the unknown”,
some people are naturally fearful and resist all change and movement,
though they can’t learn anything unless change and movement happens,
some people are “excited of the unknown”.

[quote]
This is the part I’m not getting?
Do you mean this as a prison.
[/quote]
As a free land,
for ex-cons.

They are allowed to live in Antarctica,
but would be deported back if found elsewhere.

Some people are too different,
for ordinary society to love them.

[quote]
The only people I want to see in a galactic timeout are our leaders,
banking heads, and corporate heads.
[/quote]
okay…

[quote]
I want all the poor traumatized people in jail
helped, and counciled and healed from their traumas,
[/quote]
You’re assuming there is something not right with them.
Allow people the freedom to believe they are healthy,
even if their beliefs are different from yours.
[quote]
that have been inflicted by the abuses of the elite nuki’s on the people.
[/quote]
Oftentimes, from the perspective of the “ruling elite”
they were just “helping”.

[quote]
And antartica is too close for comfort
when it comes to what I want done to the elite.
Nope, not that close.
[/quote]
?
Well there can be homes for multi-millionaire in Antarctica as well,
as a tax shelter, and a safe haven far from civilization,
where their precious things can be held securely,
and they can express themselves and their rituals,
far from prying eyes and minds.

Perhaps with some ruthless and relatively-cheap ex-con guard legions.

[quote]
I want to see them fixed,
so they can’t reproduce,
I’m sure they have fascist genes in them, :)
[/quote]
So you’re a eugenicist now?

[quote]
Given basic tools,
basic structures, seeds, etc,
and nothing else, no technology,
and put on a barren, but life supporting planet
with some basic supplies, no way off, no escape.
[/quote]
Is that what you want to happen to you?
It might,
If you wish it on others,
can happen to you.

Personally rather than being in a cage,
I’d love to pioneer a frontier.

[quote]
Then they could be given collars and whips
and play all the domination games
with each other that they want to,
well away, far away, from us.
[/quote]
We are an expression/reflection of you.
And the universe-radio-frequency your brain tunes to,
that has audio/video/smell/touch.

[quote]
To me this is fair. [/quote]
As long as you’re okay with it happening to you,
it’s fair.

[edit on 30-11-2009 by lowki]

Nice Freestyle Poem

Monday, November 30th, 2009

[quote][i]Originally posted by The Utopian Penguin[/i]
[i]reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread522685/pg1#pid7617839]post by lowki[/url][/i]
[more]

Nice freestyle poem :up:
Didn’t rhyme.
[/quote]
sure
[quote]
Doesn’t make sense.
[/quote]
If you can imagine what it says,
then it makes mind-sense.

[quote]
Without regular replenishment of supplies,
everyone on that continent dies.
[/quote]
That’s right now, with over-funded government projects,
because they don’t grow their own supplies.

But there is lots of wind energy that can be harvested,
with long lasting LED grow lights,
can produce their own supplies,
food, and wood (for construction).

Additional supplies can be harnessed from trash heaps.

I’d like to be clear.
That this is a humanitarian effort.
Since I believe that restricting freedom of movement,
by putting someone in a cage,
or killing them,
is detrimental to the persons soul,
and society as a whole,
through negative karma.

Banishing to another place is a far more natural practice,
allowing them to continue to be a contributing member of society,
by pioneering new lands,
to extend society.

Leaving them with freewill,
and freedom of creation.
They are allowed to create their own food,
buildings, and whatever else they like,
in Antarctica (new pioneering land).

[edit on 30-11-2009 by lowki]

Antarctica as a prison?

Monday, November 30th, 2009

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=522685&page=1#pid7629845

[quote][i]Originally posted by Topsy_Cret[/i]
Are you suggesting using Antarctica as a prison?
[/quote]
A part of it.

[quote]
I don’t really think that would work now-a-days,
especially if you give them a boat and a radio.

what would stop them form radioing their crime buddies
[/quote]
It’s too far.
Even if by shortwave radio they manage to contact the outside world,
the cost of going to Antarctica to pick someone up,
is beyond most developing nations,
and some developed nations.

[quote]
or using the boat to escape.
[/quote]
Designs can be for exclusively Ice boats,
that would sink on liquid water.

The entrance can be from the bottom,
to increase heat retention.

[quote]
Maybe if they were helicoptered in and dropped,
[/quote]
Too expensive.
Ice sailing them in is much cheaper,
And can use the prisoners boats,
in exchange for some supplies.

Using antarctic trucks is also an option for hauling the containers on sleds,
but may be more expensive.

[quote]
and then do the same thing for supplies.
[/quote]
Only initial supplies necessary,
they can grow their own food,
and construction materials.

Using ice boats can mine for minerals to make metals.
Or collect from trash heaps

Plenty of wind energy for power.

[quote]
Plus I don’t think it would look to good
when they all freeze to death.
[/quote]
Can start with people on death row.

Though I do intend on pioneering the lifestyle personally.
In Canada to start,
I’m already in Canada.
Developing designs for facilities and making models.

Will do some testing in nearby parks,
progress to islands,
and then remote arctic islands.

So with a colony package,
Given people that can follow instructions ( see Exam ),
Can have a self-sustaining lifestyle.

[quote]
I mean Australia is a Lil different,
there is plants and warmth. [/quote]
Yep, Same here.
With builidings for growing plants
and wind generators for making warmth
among other benefits of electricity.

Thank you for your thoughtful questions.
It was a pleasure answering them.

Canada

Sunday, November 29th, 2009

Admittedly,
Canada the coldest nation,
is perhaps the best launch point,
for developing the technologies,
to inhabit Antarctica.

Here I am,
at the heart of it,
Toronto.

Building boat,
Moving to St. Lawrence.
Testing out designs.

Ice sail through the northwest passage.
Might start a transportation business.

:-) Soul had this planned.
Life’s a stage,
It’s all rigged.
lol :D I love it.
Rigs catching the wind of intent.

Why Antarctica?

Saturday, November 28th, 2009

One of my initial motivations was in answering the question:
“Where is it safe for computers?”

Somewhere cold and stable.
Antarctica.

Why Goatia?
I looked at a picture, tilted my head left,
and saw the continent looks like a centurion goat,
complete with beard, mane, horns, arms and legs.